5 years ago#1
John Perhonis
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I have a really nice H Couf alto horn for sale. I bought it in the mid 1980's and use it for about five years until I switched full time to piano. It has been sitting the the case all this time, unused. With a little tuning up, it is a dynamite horn. I bought it back then for $900, new. I would be asking about the same price, given inflation, etc., and condition. I live in College Park, MD.

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5 years ago#2
Frank Joseph
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Hi: Is the Couf still available, did you buy it new and what condition is it in? Thanks I am very interested.

Frank Joseph

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5 years ago#3
John Perhonis
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Hi Frank- yes, I bought in new in the early eighties. There is some slight spotted tarnish on the bell, but otherwise it is like new. I have since researched its assessed value and it has been assessed at considerably more than I was originally thinking of as a selling price. I am thinking of selling it somewhere around $2000, but haven't decided on a final selling price yet. If you are still interested let me know. John Perhonis

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5 years ago#4
Frank Joseph
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Hi John: I don;t know where you are getting your research but it seems a little inflated. Check eBay and see what has sold too.I am interested but not for more than $900. Does this Couf have rolled tone holes? Again I am interested and if you still are can you send me some pics. My email address is <email> . Thanks

Frank Joseph

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4 years ago#5
Stevoreeno
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I found this old conversation from 8 months ago. Fellow bought a new Couf alto for $900 in the 1980's. Was surprised to see it now valued at more than he paid for it. Potential seller would pay no more than the original purchase price.

I'm gonna guess they didn't get together on this one.

No surprises here. I paid $490 for a brand new Selmer Mark VI alto in 1972. Sold it in 1996 for $2800, which itself would be a steal in 2010.

The Couf is an excellent pro sax. It was made in (West) Germany by Keilwerth for Herb Couf, an Armstrong executive. Keilwerth is a sax-only company that has been making first rate saxes for a long time.

Fact is that top quality pro saxes are worth more $$$ now than the original owners paid for them new. This is partly because these instruments held their value, and then you must adjust for inflation. Also, some of these quality instruments that are no longer made are hard to find.

The seller was right to ask for more than the original $900 he first thought of. Horn probably is worth $1500 to $2000 if it's in ready to play condition.

Let this be a lesson to you -- Don't announce a price unless you figured it out ahead of time. Also, don't dig in your heels and refuse to move off a low-ball offer.

Anyway, hope that Couf alto found a new home -- and at a fair price.

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4 years ago#6
John
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Good point. Yes, I agree. Given that it has held its value, and that it is in very good playing condition, and has the rolled tone holes, I figure it is worth around $2000 or better, adjusting for inflation.

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4 years ago#7
Stevoreeno
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Probably true. Best bet is to post pictures -- Especially if a horn is in great shape.

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4 years ago#8
John
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Thank you. Great suggestion. I will take a pic and post.

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4 years ago#9
Don
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Is this horn still available?

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4 years ago#10
John
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Yes. I am asking $2,000 for it. I can send you pics of it, if you want. John Perhonis

P.S. Price is negotiable. More information and pictures available to serious prospective buyers.

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4 years ago#11
diadiam
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what mouthpiece and reed size would be considered best for the H.ouf Superba I alto ? don't want to waste $$ experimenting.

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4 years ago#12
John
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In my view and experience, reed size depends on the strength of your embouchure; nd also what kind of tone you want to get. The harder the reed the more possible it is to get a sound like Charlie Parker or Cannonball (wishful thinking), but, seriously, these guys had an embouchure of steel. The mouthpiece is another choice that has nothing or little to do with instrument per se, in my view. I used to play with #3 reeds and I had a Larsen mouthpiece. YOu can have them if you choose to buy.

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3 years ago#13
John
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Don - send me your email and I'll send some pics if you are still interested. I am thinking of asking around 1500 for it, but price is negotiable.

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2 years ago#14
JPerhonis
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Frank It's sold. Thanks for your interest. John Perhonis

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2 years ago#15
Roy
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I have a H Couf Superba I.

Great sound. Interested in selling

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2 years ago#16
Saxman
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Post pictures, asking price, and your location.

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2 years ago#17
Roy
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I am in Tulsa OK.

Thinking $1,500 is a good price

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2 years ago#18
bapreb
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Do you have any better close up photos?

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2 years ago#19
JPerhonis
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This saxophone is sold. THank you for your interest. I have a Buffet clarinet and a student model Conn alto if you or anyone is interested. John Perhonis

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2 years ago#20
Todd Young
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I recently purchased and Aizen SO 6 mouthpiece for my Superba II. I can not say enough about this mouthpiece. I can play classical or jazz with it's extreme versatility. It is very responsive in both low register and altissimo. I can get a very fat airy Paul Desmond type sound, or a very projected triple forte. I played a vintage Berg Larson, and vintage Eugene Rousseau previously, to achieve the same dynamics I can with this one mouthpiece. And I must say it has the qualities I liked from both of those and then some. Highly recommend anyone at least give this one a try.

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2 years ago#21
Todd Young
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I have played my Couf Superba II alto since 1979. I have experimented with many other horns since then including several professional model Yamahas, Selmer Mark VI, Selmer Super 80, and more modern Keilwerths. I have never found anything I liked as much as my Couf with its slightly larger bell and dark fat tone. If I had to replace it, I would literally pay as much as ten grand if I had to, rather than switch to a different model. My point is, the pricing is relative to what it's worth to the buyer. I saw a Superba sell in Australia for just over $5000 dollars US, based on it's extremely excellent condition and what the buyer considered to be a rarity as to it's condition. I would never consider selling mine.

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